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- From: dhaire@gate.net (doug haire)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Is 33.6 only available for USR?
- Date: 18 Jan 1996 11:41:51 -0500
- Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
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- John White (jwhite@fishnet.net) wrote:
- :
- : Nonsense!!! Yes there are some significant problems with Rockwell
- : chipsets but reputable modem manufacturers (PPI, Supra) have
- : refined the code to the point where they are microscopic in comparison
- : to the bugs I was referring to in the Sportster. You seem to beleive
- : that if a modem does not use a Rockwell chipset it will ALWAYS be
- : better. Many hundreds of hours of my testing with Courier, Sportster
- : PPI, Supra etc. show this is not the case. My Courier with the latest
- : 33.6 code only marginally outperforms my PPI LCD. On a connection to a
- : provider using Courier upgraded to 33k I achieve 28.8 about 80% of the
- : time. With the LCD I achieve 28.8 50% of the time. Now 33k is really a
- : big deal isn't it?
-
- Apparently, it is. You see 80% 28.8k connects vs 50% 28.8k connects is
- significantly better. Incidently, how many 31.2k connects do you get with
- that PPI? I get 90% on a local call to one location (home data line to my
- BBS) and about 40% on a call from my office to BBS.
-
- : I was simply stating that from my testing 33.6k V34+ simply has not
- : shown itself to be a big boost in performance and was saying
- : that it is not a problem to not have 33.6K especially as implemented
- : now. Possibly in the future when code becomes more refined we will start
- : to see more performance improvements.
-
- There is more to that improvement than just the connect speed. Look into
- that Courier sometime and examine how it handles V.42 error correction.
- You will find that it outperforms the "standard" implementation in the
- Rockwell chipset modems every time. That is, I get high 3300's to low
- 3400's using zmodem (w/Mobyturbo) on a 28.8k connection. I get high
- 3200's to mid-3300's on a good 28.8k connect with my Supra using the same
- protocol.
-
- : I recommend you do some real world side by side comparison testing
- : as I have done rather than simply conclude "If it ain't Rockwell It will
- : always be better"
-
- I suggest you also do some real world comparison. I have data to support
- this, by the way. I ran some comparisons using MNP4 EC vs V.42 (5 tests
- each transferring the same file over normal phone lines: 1 set w/MNP4
- only, 1 set with V.42 only, and one set with V.42 and V.42bis. file size
- was 349498 bytes. Results were:
-
- MNP4 - top rate = 3406 cps (1 transfer only)
- bottom rate = 3356 cps (4 transfers under 3400)
-
- V.42 only - top rate = 3413 cps
- bottom rate = 3408 cps
-
- V.42/V.42bis - top rate = 3399 cps
- bottom rate = 3388 cps
-
- Of course, you *do* pay more for the Courier....
-
- --
- "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before."
- [Dwight D. Eisenhower]
-